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		<title>By: Don Burleson</title>
		<link>http://awads.net/wp/2006/01/09/anonymous-annoyance-now-a-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-1162</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Burleson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Pete said: &quot;Hmm, if someone persistently post about Larry Ellison not willing to get Oracle to do something about security (or lack of) in the Oracle products, that individual could potentially be brought up on charges under the new act.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yes, but there are conditions:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1) You must be anonymous
2) You must be subject to the laws of the US&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you don&#039;t mind being responsible for your own words then there is no problem.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Free speech is still protected.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If an anonymous person annoyed Larry by publishing a lie or presented him to the public in a false light, then Ellison could get law enforcement to reveal the identity of the person.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;THis looks similar to the laws in other places that already make it a crime to annoy people:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.dba-oracle.com/internet_journalism_libel_laws.htm&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Where I live (NC) we have a state law:  â€œElectronically mail or electronically communicate to another and to knowingly make any false statement concerning death, injury, illness, disfigurement, indecent conduct, or criminal conduct of the person electronically mailed or of any member of the person&#039;s family or household with the intent to abuse, annoy, threaten, terrify, harass, or embarrass.â€ (see North Carolina Code Â§14-169.3(b)(3))&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In parts of Australia, publishing annoying statements (even if they are true) is a crime:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.law.unimelb.edu.au/cmcl/publications/def5.pdf&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;In New South Wales, defamation law is not codified, but the common law is significantly modified by the Defamation Act 1974 (NSW). In all Australian States and Territories defamation may attract criminal, as well as civil, liability.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete said: &#8220;Hmm, if someone persistently post about Larry Ellison not willing to get Oracle to do something about security (or lack of) in the Oracle products, that individual could potentially be brought up on charges under the new act.&#8221;</p>

<p>Yes, but there are conditions:</p>

<p>1) You must be anonymous
2) You must be subject to the laws of the US</p>

<p>If you don&#8217;t mind being responsible for your own words then there is no problem.</p>

<p>Free speech is still protected.</p>

<p>If an anonymous person annoyed Larry by publishing a lie or presented him to the public in a false light, then Ellison could get law enforcement to reveal the identity of the person.</p>

<p>THis looks similar to the laws in other places that already make it a crime to annoy people:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.dba-oracle.com/internet_journalism_libel_laws.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dba-oracle.com/internet_journalism_libel_laws.htm</a></p>

<p>Where I live (NC) we have a state law:  â€œElectronically mail or electronically communicate to another and to knowingly make any false statement concerning death, injury, illness, disfigurement, indecent conduct, or criminal conduct of the person electronically mailed or of any member of the person&#8217;s family or household with the intent to abuse, annoy, threaten, terrify, harass, or embarrass.â€ (see North Carolina Code Â§14-169.3(b)(3))&#8221;</p>

<p>In parts of Australia, publishing annoying statements (even if they are true) is a crime:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.law.unimelb.edu.au/cmcl/publications/def5.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.law.unimelb.edu.au/cmcl/publications/def5.pdf</a></p>

<p>&#8220;In New South Wales, defamation law is not codified, but the common law is significantly modified by the Defamation Act 1974 (NSW). In all Australian States and Territories defamation may attract criminal, as well as civil, liability.&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Peter K</title>
		<link>http://awads.net/wp/2006/01/09/anonymous-annoyance-now-a-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-1151</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here&#039;s what I had posted on my blog (as a comment)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think the problem is with the fact that they have just added the following, &lt;i&gt;`(C) in the case of subparagraph (C) of subsection (a)(1), includes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet (as such term is defined in section 1104 of the Internet Tax Freedom Act (47 U.S.C. 151 note)).&#039;&lt;/i&gt; to update the act to include any devices/software that can be used for communications and if the original Act says &quot;&lt;i&gt;
makes a telephone call or utilizes a telecommunications device, whether or not conversation or ommunication ensues,without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person at the called number or who receives the communications;&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You have the potential to apply this to blogs, emails, messaging, or web postings as all of the above are forms of communications.  Who is to say that someone might be annoyed by various postings and could potential file charges against the author.  For example, if I constantly and consistently post about an individual or group of individuals, then the intent to &quot;annoy or harass&quot; is there?  Hmm, if someone persistently post about Larry Ellison not willing to get Oracle to do something about security (or lack of) in the Oracle products, that individual could potentially be brought up on charges under the new act.  Food for thought.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what I had posted on my blog (as a comment)</p>

<p>I think the problem is with the fact that they have just added the following, <i>`(C) in the case of subparagraph (C) of subsection (a)(1), includes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet (as such term is defined in section 1104 of the Internet Tax Freedom Act (47 U.S.C. 151 note)).&#8217;</i> to update the act to include any devices/software that can be used for communications and if the original Act says &#8220;<i>
makes a telephone call or utilizes a telecommunications device, whether or not conversation or ommunication ensues,without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person at the called number or who receives the communications;</i>.</p>

<p>You have the potential to apply this to blogs, emails, messaging, or web postings as all of the above are forms of communications.  Who is to say that someone might be annoyed by various postings and could potential file charges against the author.  For example, if I constantly and consistently post about an individual or group of individuals, then the intent to &#8220;annoy or harass&#8221; is there?  Hmm, if someone persistently post about Larry Ellison not willing to get Oracle to do something about security (or lack of) in the Oracle products, that individual could potentially be brought up on charges under the new act.  Food for thought.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Catherine Devlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine Devlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Absolutely amazing.  I mean, for crying out loud, the Founding Fathers wrote anonymously &lt;i&gt;all the time&lt;/i&gt;.  The &lt;i&gt;Federalist Papers&lt;/i&gt; were published anonymously, and you&#039;d better believe plenty of people were annoyed by them.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely amazing.  I mean, for crying out loud, the Founding Fathers wrote anonymously <i>all the time</i>.  The <i>Federalist Papers</i> were published anonymously, and you&#8217;d better believe plenty of people were annoyed by them.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 09:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;SHUT UP!is this an annoyance? hehe..&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SHUT UP!is this an annoyance? hehe..</p>]]></content:encoded>
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